Sweet Reverie by ravenmoondesign
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Sweet Reverie

by ravenmoondesign in People

A pretty gal in a pretty place lost in sweet reverie.

Prints available - http://fav.me/d5cibwk

Poser Pro 2012, Paint Shop Pro X4
all resources used were created by, gifted to, and/or purchased by me
all rights reserved, ┬ęBrandy Thomas

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  • JurgenDoe

    JurgenDoe

    very lovely work .. but I see many mistakes ... the bench should be more clear like the person who sits on it .. I would turn the figure more so she gets the same angle like the bench ... add some shadows underneath her to give it a more natural look . study photos and learn about shadow and light :D

    Nov 24th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • ravenmoondesign

      ravenmoondesign

      Thanks. However, other than the bench needing a bit more clarity, I really don't see the other mistakes you mentioned. I always render with shadows turned on and have the shadow coming from the main light source (such as here, the light is coming from behind and to her right...so the shadows are in front, slanting to her left). Maybe what I need to do is paint them darker after I render...Poser may not be making them dark enough.

      Nov 24th, 2012 Reply
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      well I'm used poser too and know the poser lighting .. maybe you should try imb lighting .. if you go with the background the figure is to light for the background .. there should be a shadow on the bench underneath her and and and and ... just look at photos where people sitting on a bench and you will understand .. this looks to much cut out and paste into the background

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • ravenmoondesign

      ravenmoondesign

      Hmm, I've never heard of imb lighting...IDL, you mean? I use it sometimes, but there are times it makes my computer real laggy.
      That's the thing, though...there IS a shadow on the bench underneath her. The light parts of the bench are where there is no shadow. The rest of the bench is covered in her shadow with it darkening right around where her legs actually touch it. I save two files when I use a pre-made background...a .png (which has just the character and shadows, sans background) and a .psd (which is the character and background on a single layer). I looked at the .png to be sure, and there is a big shadow under her legs.
      Since I started using Poser years ago, I'm always looking at light and shadow play in real life. And I do try very hard to get my lights and shadows correct in my scenes. I'm sorry this one is looking too cut-and-paste for you. Maybe she's a bit too light for the background, although I'm not seeing it. Maybe it's the difference in our computer monitors. But then, I'm also not going for utter realism, either...if I were, I wouldn't be going for a more painterly look. So...it is what it is, I guess.
      I will try to keep shadow play more forefront in my mind when rendering and post working, though...especially on ground/sitting surfaces.

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      Look at your background and look at the figure .. the background you are using is ways to blurry for this figure and the bench should be much sharpener as it is ...

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      For the lighting ... try to buy this light settings here .. they are the best on the market

      http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/prostudio/70713

      http://www.runtimedna.com/IDL-STUDIO.html

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • ravenmoondesign

      ravenmoondesign

      The background isn't blurry, it's got a softness to it. It almost looks the way I bought it, but adding the painted look to the whole scene softened it a tad bit more. And I actually have comments from other people on other sites that they like the softness the whole scene has. Yes, the bench should be a bit sharper, I do agree with you there, but I'm not going back and re-doing all my post work. This image is finished and has been since August. I don't have time to re-visit and re-work my scenes when one person has a problem with them. I'm at the point where I know I won't please everyone...and you are the first person to take issue with it.
      I have RDNA's IDL Studio, as well as many of their add-on's for it...though I admit, I don't use it very often. If the other set ever goes on sale, I may get it (I rarely ever buy if the item is not on sale)...but I have so many light sets as it is. My art is not meant to be uber realistic/studio-style scenes. It is meant to be artsy. If that means some people won't like it, then that's fine. I'm good with it and that's all that matters.

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      Seems like you don't like critique at all .. this is to get better in your work .. you can't only relay on ah good and wonderful .. as artist you should learn from critique

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • ravenmoondesign

      ravenmoondesign

      Critique is fine...nitpicking is irritating. When I see the problem pointed out, I work to fix it in the future (such as I'll be more mindful to make the shadows on the ground darker so they are more visible, and make sure all foreground elements are as in focus as others). I already told you I saw those two issues you pointed out (although the bench shadows in this image are just fine). That should have been good and left at that. But you are continuing to pick on my style...telling me to use certain lighting and such...and now saying I can't take critique because I'm left defending my style. I'm perfectly happy with my style AND my lighting choices. Thanks for the links...but like I said, I already own almost all of RDNA's lighting systems, including the new IDL Studio 2. I use them when I feel the scene needs it, and I use other light sets I have when the IDL isn't working out. I don't understand why that's such a big deal to you. If you don't like the image, just move on. I'm not going to go back and fix every problem in every scene that one person points out. I will take what critique you did give and apply it to future images...that's all I have time for.

      Nov 25th, 2012 Reply
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      Well I ave you an honest critique and did not pick on you .. you are the one who couldn't take the critique at all and said that others like your work and didn't say anything .. as an artist you have to live with critique ... and don't blame a different kind of computer or something else on mistakes in your work

      Nov 26th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
    • ravenmoondesign

      ravenmoondesign

      OMG...are we STILL going on this?! I DID take your critique. Did you skip over every part where I said AGREED with you?! I never said I wasn't prone to making mistakes, we all are. I never said I wouldn't take your advice when I felt it was valid. I never said it was your computer monitor that was to blame, I said it COULD be. Not all monitors are calibrated the same, you know.

      Yes, you are the ONLY one to comment negatively on it...everyone else who favorited and/or commented obviously liked it and didn't see what you see....or liked it enough to look beyond the mistakes. I'm still confused on why you feel the need to keep coming back to alert me about these mistakes over and over. Which leads to the next point...

      The nitpicking I'm talking about is EXACTLY what you are doing...you keep coming back and telling me over and over what YOU see is wrong with MY artwork. You could have stated it once, accepted what I said and moved on. Instead, you keep arguing with me over MY artwork! Get over it! I feel that overall, the piece is fine the way it is. You don't. That's nice, but I have final say as it's MY work. Could it use a few minor tweaks...yes...but when we look back, most pieces could - a piece of art is never truly finished...we just choose to stop at a certain point and move on to the next piece. I already stated several times that in the future I will look to correct the two mistakes you pointed out that I felt were valid.

      So...are we done now...or are you going to rehash the "mistakes" you see...again? Oh, and how much I can't take "critique"?

      In all honesty, I've been given critique before...some I have taken, some I have passed up. But I have NEVER been bashed over the head with it and then told I can't take it. THAT is what I find irritating and why I get defensive. Maybe you should look at how you give critique before accusing someone of not being able to take it.

      Nov 26th, 2012 Reply
    • JurgenDoe

      JurgenDoe

      Nov 26th, 2012 Reply Subscriber
  • Megha

    Megha

    awesome work

    Nov 24th, 2012 Reply