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Raghveer
Raghveer
Nicely Explained.
Mar 11th, 2012 -
arekplaur
arekplaur
Thanks for the info.
Mar 13th, 2012
Ask: Is vector trace or vexel trace violating copyright if i use a photo that found in google images or the others wallpaper site?
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Mike
Mike
@arekplaur: We won't remove a traced vector image but we'd appreciate a link to the source ;)
Mar 13th, 2012 -
arekplaur
arekplaur
Thanks mike.
Mar 14th, 2012 -
aedabit
aedabit
nice. woah. nice smudge painting trick
Mar 14th, 2012 -
ZodiarkDarkja
ZodiarkDarkja
these are nice...but smudge painters do get much attention from the public than the people who actually paint.....This, feels....unfair... :(
Apr 29th, 2012 -
BlackzInc
BlackzInc
me and some friends, objected to the content of this article were impressed discredit Smudge Painting techniques for developing flow and much in demand today. If the point is the source of stock issues we agree on that article, but it's not just a smudge painting using illegal stock just in case but the other streams as well. It is unfortunate Shadowness as a community that connects between graphic design artist even castrate one stream in this case Smudge Painting.
Jun 14th, 2012 -
BlackzInc
BlackzInc
a large community of graphic design arts abusive and degrading a stream of graphic art design, then the community is not higher than the art of being harassed.
Jun 14th, 2012 -
Tricks
Tricks
/Blackzinc the point of this article is to point out the lack of credit given to the source of the images used in "Smudge" paintings, not that we don't like or reject those images. If proper source material is linked to and credit given then All images stay, if they are not then they are removed, This is done to ensure that Shadowness remains a safe place to post and comment on any work that's uploaded to the site daily. If you or your friends have any issue please contact one of the /staff so we can explain in more detail.
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BlackzInc
BlackzInc
Our objection to the title and contents of the article,
Jun 15th, 2012
we agree to include a source link of a stock and very supportive. but whatever it may be as easy as they think it still can not harass the flow in vogue. harasses harassing the same stream of art throughout the community. -
Mike
Mike
@ /BlackzInc I'm glad we can agree on the main point of this article--all stock images should be credited and the artist must have the right to use them. When this article was written, we were confronted with people being celebrated as great "painters" although they have not painted anything but they just smudged copyrighted images. That's why I wanted to make it clear that in my opinion paintings (where you have to come up with a fresh concept, outline your work etc) are more difficult to create than smudgings. By the way, the first paragraph of the article reflects my personal opinion, so "the community" did not harrass anyone. If you feel harrassed by my opinion, I want to apologize because that was not my intention. Maybe you can suggest how to rewrite the passages you feel offended about.
Jun 15th, 2012 -
FallenRox
FallenRox
Excellent article :)
Jun 15th, 2012 -
BlackzInc
BlackzInc
If you ever want to remove an artwork that is not in accordance with the go ahead, without the need to consider minor to "Smude Painting or Painting Look". Very, very regrettable this article shall continue to be loaded in this comunitas.
Jun 17th, 2012 -
Mike
Mike
Can you copy and paste the sentences you don't like?
Jun 17th, 2012 -
Zazemel
Zazemel
I didn't even realize this was going on! Where have I been? >:O
Aug 2nd -
hatefree
hatefree
its good when you smudge your own work, not other's work..
Aug 3rd -
Mike
Mike
@hatefree Exactly.
Aug 3rd -
Plat
Plat
execellent ........
Sep 17th -
Megha
Megha
thanks for the tips. i will try to folloow them.
Sep 18th -
natashialee
natashialee
Another thing that irks me with regard to smudgies (and this is just what I think) is that they usually get submitting to Paintings, but in reality they should be either photo manipulation or mixed media.
Sep 18th -
ibnuul
ibnuul
now I know
Sep 28th -
Stephenmax
Stephenmax
nobody likes being reprimanded but sometimes it has to be done. as much as it is our nature as artists to be free thinking we cannot ignore the fact that some rules also apply to us. we may not like it but using other people's stuff without giving credit is stealing. i am sure if someone took your art and touched it up and called it their own almost any artist would go berserk. again i think it is a matter of integrity. we hate being called out on a mistake or when we broke a rule but we still have to be big enough and mature enough to say "my bad" and move on.
Dec 15th -
randoo53
randoo53
@Mike: I think this article was very well written and concise. I don't see how any reasonable artist could complain about it's content not intentions (unless they are guilty and hope to keep their work posted).
Dec 15th
I have read this article twice now and cannot see where you could have possibly offended anyone for any reason.
I am glad this has been addressed and I hope the admins here at Shadowness are able to keep an eye on this so as to stop any further violations that would only harm the entire artist community here at Shadowness. -
arabrab
arabrab
@randoo53, I definitely agree... Sometimes it is just so hard to say what you exactly want to tell, so even though how much you try to point out what you mean, still, some won't understand it. This is a very informative article though. And I understand the author of this article...
Feb 11th -
Highlander0423
Highlander0423
I find this interesting, How is smudge painting any worst then tracing or using heavy ref?. I don't see a diff?... especially if you use someone elses photo, This kinda of art should be labeled as such as a MIP, you can't call it a painting because it's not....this of course is just MOP!...
Feb 11th -
rgbench03
rgbench03
Thanks for very helpful information. keep it up!
Feb 12th -
Cecilian
Cecilian
I have trouble accepting anything done on top of somebody else's artwork, whether it be a photo or anything else, as art. I like the technique, but if your not using either a drawing or photo of your own, I consider it theft of someone's artistic talent. Even with permission, it shows a lack of creativity and skill if you can't come up with original drawings or photos. Obviously this is all personal opinion but I normally avoid favoriting anything that could just be a gloss over of someone else's talent. The sad part is it is hard to tell sometimes, and this article gives clear instructions on how to make it much less confusing.
Feb 12th -
rudirei
rudirei
i agree
Jun 5th -
MichelleFennel
MichelleFennel
Wow. I didn't know about smudge painting and for me personally it's no real artform. I love real paintings and real photography but just smudging something that already exists seems absolutely not artistc to me in any way.
Jun 5th
Mar 11th, 2012This is an example of a proper stock photo manipulated with smudging and painting techniques.
Smudge painting is a technique to make a photo appear like a painting by using the smudge tool. Actually, the term "smudge painting" is a little misleading in some cases because some people don't bother painting anything--they just smudge what's already there. In my opinion, these "smudge paintings" should therefore be called only "smudges" then.
Smudging comes in handy, e.g. when you want to change a family photo, a photo of your dog, or a photo of your friend into a painting. While saving you a lot of time and effort, you get a great artistic result.
However, problems arise when you don't use proper stock material, and that's where we at Shadowness draw the line. Smudge paintings based on stock photos (like from istockphoto.com, sxc.hu, your own photos, the stock section at Shadowness or Deviantart) are fine--but photos from Google image search or wallpapers (especially celebrity wallpapers and photos) are not allowed because virtually all of these images are copyrighted, meaning you can't use them for any kind of manipulation. It's like stealing a dusty car and making strokes in the dust with your fingers. The look of the car might have changed, but it's still a stolen car!
If you really want to have a painting of a celebrity, well, then you have to be more original and actually paint it. Smudging or other manipulations will get the image deleted.
P.S. I know from first hand that in Asia, for example, the copyright isn't really an issue. However, in Western countries such as Canada, where Shadowness is based, copyright holders actually sue image thieves because images are protected just like MP3s and movies.