Copperrein

All of the above • http://outofthebead-lands.blogspot.com/

Painter, illustrator, photographer, glass artist, guitar refinisher, silversmith, and an avid reader

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  • HillbillyDeluxe

    HillbillyDeluxe

    I'm not sure why I didn't click on the follow button earlier...

    Feb 10th, 2012 Reply
  • Ashara

    Ashara

    Hello, thanks for the favourite on Forest Light!

    Apr 25th, 2011 Reply
  • HellOnAStick

    HellOnAStick

    Thank you for subscribing and sharing your work with Shadowness! We have featured your front page in our subscription article here:
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    Apr 21st, 2011 Reply
  • capitan

    capitan

    ♥ ♥ ♥

    Apr 18th, 2011 Reply
  • grunge

    grunge

    hi copperrein! :)

    Apr 15th, 2011 Reply
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  • SmilingDemon

    SmilingDemon

    Just some of self taught artists using digital as their primary medium.

    http://www.danluvisiart.com
    http://www.okonart.com
    http://www.microbot.ch/
    http://chriscold.deviantart.com/

    And incidentally all working freelance...

    Apr 2nd, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      Yes, you should understand that these people are amazing artists because Photoshop is not their crutch. All of them exhibit actual art skills :) Please don't think knowing how to cut and paste stock images and trace over art in a program counts as being an artist. Real artists see through this immediately.

      Apr 2nd, 2011 Reply
    • SmilingDemon

      SmilingDemon

      I'm not trying to say cut and pasting bits of stock image is "artwork". All I'm trying to say is that to be an artist you don't need to be proficient with pencil and paper, its not the be all and end all.

      A different example would be http://cargocollective.com/visionsinsleep who purely models all his things in 3D. Are you going to tell me he isn't an artist?

      Apr 3rd, 2011 Reply
    • IanARTic

      IanARTic

      I agree with Smiling Demon. Art is a a creation. What tools you use to create makes a huge difference on what you interpret on that specific art piece. Art doesn't just have to be drawing and traditional art. Originally it was, but as technology developed, art has expanded and grown. There are many artists out there who do digital art work/computer based art. And there are many people who do traditional art like you. I am used to criticism from people who look at my art. I think it helps with the growth. But im only 17, i have thousands of people who look at my work and i am well known. The way you handled our chat was unfair. You weren't very nice about it and you said that digital art isn't art at all. I'm sorry to say but i disagree. Art can be in any form.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      I understand this and I already said this. What I am trying to explain is copying is fine for learning. You need to learn. But it will never be your art until you start creating *your* art. Which you aren't. I am trying to impress upon you (both of you) that all these really amazing digital artists at some point learned lighting. proper perspective, real skills. Software can only take you so far, then your brain has to do the rest. It shows when one doesn't understand how light works or how a hand is proportioned. It doesn't look right when these things are lacking.

      There is a line between a tool being a tool or a crutch. It's not a fine line...it is a very *very* fat one. Use a crutch too long and you'll never walk right.

      Please address the real subject here instead of trying to imply that I said I hate digital art (which I said the exact opposite, I love 'art' in all its forms when it's art). The real subject is you posted a link in chat, fishing for a confrontation on the fact you are claiming someone else's work as your own. You got upset when I had the balls to just say you're not that good and it's not your art. Then you failed to miss my point when I said you'll never be that good if you continue to focus all your creativity on hanging on the coat-tails of accomplished artists and then putting forth the effort to try to convince the rest of us you're the creator and you're that good.

      You THEN missed the part where I suggested exercises to get your brain moving in the direction which would take you to your own, very valid, and very yours art. I try really hard to compliment and criticize at the same time. The last thing I want in this world is a lack of art. I want the world filled with artists. In my opinion we would be in an Orwellian society right now if it weren't for the artists. I love teaching, ask me anything and if I can help or guide I am sooo totally there. I don't want you not to do art. I want you to become an artist.

      Art is not a quick thing. It takes years to feel somewhat comfortable with. Art is not always there, waiting to be shit out by the artist. Art is sometimes a momentary inspiration that kicks you in the ear and has to be made real immediately or it will be gone forever. Art can be a slow, nagging need to express something not entirely known that takes much time to finally present itself. Art can be a longing to say something, convey an idea to the viewer, something from inside the artist. Art is not an emotionless assemblage of cool elements and effects (in *any* medium...I will repeat it slower: a n y m e d i u m) that was merely created with the intent to impress others.

      I beg you to sit back, take ten slow breaths and remove your pride and ego and seriously consider this. I am not trying to harm you or dissuade you. I am just speaking honestly and not blowing the proverbial smoke up your behind.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • IanARTic

      IanARTic

      could we possibly talk on skype. i would like to talk to you. I think you could help me because your a teacher.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      I don't have Skype but I'm sure no one would have an issue if you posted your questions here. Then others would also have the chance to learn an ask. Open forum learning is amazing for these reasons. It also helps break down personal walls as well. Don't be shy, just ask :)

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • IanARTic

      IanARTic

      So basically you are saying that in-order to be an artist, you have to create absolutely everything by yourself. With my images, I try to take a long time to deal with shadows, composition, color, technique, and everything. There are many people out there that do quick and easy things dealing with colored lights for example. i would agree with you that photoshop is just a tool and you can only get so far with it and that everything else you have to do by yourself. I'm only 17 so i still have a lot to learn, but im better than most kids my age within art. So was i right?

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      I don't think you've got a strong handle on these things. I've posted a few comments on the work that is yours reflecting this. Again you are still trying to argue and it will only lead to me telling you once again you're not as good as you try to make people think you are. I will continue this discussion with you if you can do the following:

      Take a plain piece of paper, crumple it slightly, set it down and draw it from life. Draw a crumpled white sheet of paper.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • IanARTic

      IanARTic

      what would that do. I am not trying to argue.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • SmilingDemon

      SmilingDemon

      "I am trying to impress upon you (both of you) that all these really amazing digital artists at some point learned lighting. proper perspective, real skills."

      And clearly you weren't listening to my original point which was that these are the "core" skills needed, but they don't have to be learnt by going about it in a traditional way, aka drawing with pencil and paper. That is A way of learning them, and probably quite good, but not the ONLY way.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
    • IanARTic

      IanARTic

      I totally agree with you SmilingDemon. I use photoshop 3 hours a day. Each time i try to learn how to create shadows, lighting, perspective and everything else. I read books on art, drawing, how to use photoshop, develop my skills further, try new things, and to be more creative. I also try to create everything by me so little to none of my work is stock.

      Apr 4th, 2011 Reply
  • IanARTic

    IanARTic

    i don't understand your point. photoshop is a toll like everything else. in photoshop, i create absolutely everything. I try to base my work of a characteristic of someone or thing.

    Apr 2nd, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      I have seen your drawings, they show little technical ability. I am not trying to be mean, but it is apparent in your work you are only going through trained motions of art, like a tattoo flash artist. You have potential, I'll give you that...but whatever potential you may or may not have now will be wasted if you continue pretending to create other people's work instead of seriously humbling yourself and opening your 'self' and finding you own art and style. Please...go find people far more talented than I, there are millions out there. Ask them. Ask other real artists.

      Apr 2nd, 2011 Reply
    • ElementInfinity

      ElementInfinity

      :D

      I agree. What Copperrein's saying applies to EVERYONE. I feel it applies, especially to me.

      Thanks rein btw. ^.^

      Apr 11th, 2011 Reply
    • ElementInfinity

      ElementInfinity

      Oh! And I love the avatar. I can't place it, but something about the eyes creates some type of mischievous attitude.

      Apr 11th, 2011 Reply
    • Copperrein

      Copperrein

      I am that thing you say I am, Element. ehee.

      Aug 8th, 2011 Reply
  • welkid

    welkid

    nice to meet you

    Apr 2nd, 2011 Reply
  • 7Shadows

    7Shadows

    Added the Surreal tag. Thanks for the suggestion!

    Mar 31st, 2011 Reply